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small smiles later today

By ~5p ET another phase of this ordeal will be over.

Till then, dig all this.

JRubin WaPo on the 'overwhelmingness':
Biden not only received a majority of the popular vote, but also cleared 51 percent — the largest vote percentage obtained against an incumbent president since 1932 and a bigger percentage of the popular vote than any Republican president since George H.W. Bush in 1988, when Bush was essentially running for a third Ronald Reagan term. In the process, Biden amassed the largest total number of ballots in U.S. history. He pummeled Trump by more than 7 million votes (and exceeded Barack Obama’s 2008 vote total by more than 11 million). That margin is bigger than Massachusetts’s entire population; in fact, only 14 states have a population of more than 7 million. Biden’s popular vote margin by percentage (4.4 percent) far surpasses Obama’s 2012 victory over Mitt Romney.

MGoldberg NYT
The radically different way the media treats boundary-pushing on the left and on the right is about more than hypocrisy or double standards. It is, rather, an outgrowth of the crisis of democracy that shields the Republican Party from popular rebuke. There’s no point asking if the G.O.P. can control its right. It has no reason to.
Democrats have just won the popular vote in the seventh out of the last eight presidential elections. In the aftermath, analysts have overwhelmingly focused on what Democrats, not Republicans, must do to broaden their appeal.

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  • @davidmoran - Dream on. Nothing in one universe holds in an alternate universe, even when they operate with visibility and consequences to each other.
  • Crazy nutso stuff. Reality-denying. which would indicate pathology.
  • edited December 2020
    the opposite of smiles

    PWaldman WaPo tonight

    This is a never-ending obsession with Democrats. How can we get conservatives to like us more? Is there some special strategy we can deploy, or argument we can make, that will open their hearts and minds to what we have to say?

    You may have noticed that Republicans — who have now lost the popular vote in seven of the last eight presidential elections — never bother to ask themselves how they might reach out to liberals. They appoint no people to carry out this task; they publish no essays in their journals about how to go about it; they hold no think-tank forums to explore the problem and consider solutions. They’d much rather dream up new voter suppression schemes to make it more difficult for liberals to cast their ballots.

    It’s reinforced by a media double standard: Reporters seldom bother to ask Republicans what they’re doing to reach out to the other side, because everyone knows the answer is “nothing.” That’s despite the fact that in our lifetimes we’ve never seen a president more contemptuous of people who didn’t vote for him than Trump, and he just lost reelection by 7 million votes. You might think it’s a problem the GOP could benefit from considering.

    And Republicans are allowed to show utter contempt for liberals and the places they live, while heaven help a Democrat who says anything disrespectful about red states or small towns.

    Yet we constantly scratch our chins wondering why Democrats fail to get more support from conservative white voters, especially in rural areas. Is it their policy choices? The fact that they nominate too many candidates from the Northeast? Are they not showing sufficient “respect”? Should they offer more praise to country music, pickup trucks and other rural conservative cultural markers? Would that do the trick?

    The answer, of course, is no.

    The truth is that Democrats reach out constantly. They hold forums to show they understand and care about rural issues. They support policies to give people in conservative states better health care and better education and more economic opportunities. They come up with plans to boost rural America. It doesn’t penetrate.

    Why is that? The first reason is simply that conservatives are, well, conservative. We live in a time of party polarization and ideological coherence, which means the two parties have profoundly different perspectives and policy agendas. As much as dishonest politicians insist we need to stop all the bickering and find solutions, Washington is full of solutions and bickering is not the problem. It’s that conservatives and liberals have incompatible ideas about what we should do, about taxes, government spending, healthcare, climate change and almost everything else.

    The second reason is that conservatives’ ideas about liberals are created and sustained by an extremely effective propaganda machine. You simply cannot overstate the influence Fox News, conservative talk radio and the rest of the rightwing media universe has over the way conservatives view liberals.

    It’s a billion-dollar megaphone blasting in conservatives’ ears every day around the clock, telling them that liberals are arrogant, condescending, immoral, hypocritical, snakes who hate them and everything they stand for, who spend their days plotting the destruction of America and God and all that is good about the world.
  • Sadly true for the most part. Only, are conservatives conservative anymore, given, for instance, the deficit under a Republican president? The author makes it sound like this political impasse is just part of a long continuum of ideological differences, but today feels different at least to me. A part of this article by Mark Lilla struck me regarding those differences:https://nybooks.com/articles/2020/11/05/keep-your-wits/
    But the surge for Trump that carried him over the top didn’t come from the right. It came from below, from some dark American id you had no access to. The moment Trump took office your life changed. You followed the press conferences, which were unlike any you had ever seen. They felt like daily beatings, but still you submitted to them. You read the torrent of tweets coming out of the White House and watched the Saturday Night Live parodies, and shared the funniest ones with friends. Until they no longer seemed so funny. You obsessively checked MSNBC and Democracy Now! and Twitter, passing untold hours with people who were just as appalled and obsessed as you were. The Mueller investigation began and you were transfixed. Later, the impeachment trial. Both fizzled out without anything changing. The hyenas howled in celebration and the outrages continued. You slept badly.

    Then, at a certain point, you gave up. You were tired of every conversation turning to Trump and everyone agreeing. Yes, even unanimity came to seem an embarrassing badge of impotence. The Republican Party, including members who had denounced Trump during the 2016 primaries, followed him zombie-like on his pillage-and-burn mission. Why? You had no idea. A pandemic hit the country, threatening their constituents, and they played it down. They promoted crackpot theories and medicines, and proudly went maskless in public. That was when you learned the useful term “vice signaling.” A group of armed jackasses in camouflage fatigues descended menacingly on the Michigan State Capitol to protest a mask mandate and roamed the marble halls with their assault rifles, unperturbed by the state police. Again, why? Fuck you, the mob explained.
  • edited December 2020
    Just read David's latest, above, and the response from Lewis. Ringing all my bells, yes. I must have already said this, earlier: the old Dixiecrats-turned-Repugnant, together with old line Repugnants, do indeed live in an alternative universe. The old bigotry is still there, particularly in the rural South. Just ask my friend, who carpools to work with it/them, every day. "Make America White Again" did not work. And now, they've lost the 2020 election. The Dems. still have a majority in the House. But barely. The pre-election polls were off-target. A lesson learned. And the Dems better learn how to win those down-ballot races again. .......

    .....But given the stunning accuracy of what's been shared above, trying to win over Repubs and flip them to vote Democratic is a waste of time. In the months leading up to the Nov. election, I was engrossed in some learning from a bunch of lectures that were not connected to the campaigns, but the term "identity politics" was frowned upon. As it was being defined, I could see the logic of it.

    But I'm coming around to the idea that "identity politics" is the way to go, and to get Progressive agendas accomplished. Indeed, that is the whole point of Zerlina Maxwell's book, "The End Of White Politics: How To Heal Our Liberal Divide." People of color, with all of their particular issues, overwhelmingly vote Democratic. Black WOMEN, especially. And demographically, that is the future of this country. (The fact that so many voted for the Trumpster TWICE flies in the face of reality. I take it as a slap-back from the ones who represent and support the old oligarchic and chiefly WHITE status quo.)

    Stacey Abrams in Georgia represents a new thing. She and her comrades flipped Georgia BLUE, though barely. But they did it. It's quite an accomplishment. I wonder what real chance Warnock and Osoff have? ...... I had the CBC's nightly news on last night, as I do each night. Their reporter for "The National" was in GA, and on-camera with an "ordinary guy on the street." She asked something like: "How do you think Joe Biden managed to turn Georgia BLUE, this time?" And the response was: it ISN'T Blue, it's RED. "They" want you to THINK so, but Georgia is RED. It STAYED RED, Georgia is RED!"

    How can you profitably speak and discuss, in the face of such childish (white) ignorance?
    There are larger issues here: the biases we all bring to the place where learning MIGHT take place. The LACK of education in the general populace. The influence of the "churches" which have married the cross and the flag, into a twisted mentality that purports to be "Christian," but is really puritan Rugged Individualism dressed up to look holy. And Rugged Individualism: how well has THAT worked for the vast majority???

    State Houses, seats in Congresses, local Alderman's races, State Senate seats--- all these need to be wrested from the Powers That Be, still.

    The poisoned political environment we are dealing with began way back with Gingrich the Newt's antics. Uncle Bill Clinton did not help. On his watch, the Democratic Party began its own slow, gradual move to the Right, so that even CENTRIST policies can be labeled as "crazy radical and Lefty communist" by the Repugnants. There is no "Left" in the USA today. It won't happen with the Repugnants. It won't happen with the Socialists. The very name has been ignorantly blacklisted. There will be no viable "Left" again in the USA until the DEMOCRATS own it.





  • +1 david Paul Waldman opinion is one of the best summaries I've seen. We've always had a portion of the electorate that was conservative, resistant to change,anti-science and anti-intellectual,authoritarian and willing to put the preservation of white heritage/supremacy above all else !They voted Democratic before the 1964 Civil Rights Bill and continuously migrated to the GOP after that.
  • Just reading that headline and the byline underneath tells me a lot. And it's true.
  • edited December 2020
    News from the Alternative Universe of Alternative Facts: Just found on the CNBC webpage: "The States backing Paxton’s effort are Missouri, Alabama, Arkansas, Florida, Indiana, Kansas, Louisiana, Mississippi, Montana, Nebraska, North Dakota, Oklahoma, South Carolina, South Dakota, Tennessee, Utah, and West Virginia." Fair warning. In all these States, uncle Donald The Orange beat Biden in the popular vote.
    https://www.cnbc.com/2020/12/09/states-tell-supreme-court-they-support-texas-bid-to-reverse-biden-win.html

    The clown show has become cemented, institutionalized. Things in the USA are not in a healthy state. Organs of GOVERNMENT are sowing mistrust of our bedrock democratic processes, procedures and institutions. Uncle Vladimir is happy, I suspect.
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