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Rhode Island sheriffs' retirement account woes bring scrutiny to their state-run plan
This was posted in Facebook TIAA Group and here was my reply:
"My take - 2 links are at the end.
1. Plan fees are $32/yr plus fund ER (if applicable).
2. TIAA Traditional is RCP (flexible). There is no ER as it's run directly from TIAA General Account. RCP rates are published monthly (& here too) & seem good. The guessed ERs in the NBC article are speculations & show poor understanding.
3. Also available are TIAA Stable Value (with lower rates) & Vanguard money-market fund.
4. TDFs available are TIAA RetirePlus Select (ER 3 bps only) & Vanguard TDFs.
5. Other funds available are from American Funds, Pimco, State Street, Vanguard.
6. As for restrictions on in-service withdrawals & loans, neither is available, but that is the decision of Rhode Island. I am surprised that loans aren't allowed. But why blame TIAA? Complain to Rhode Island HR.
IMO, it's a GOOD plan & I hope that TIAA responds to the shoddy NBC piece. If not, you are at the right place to get right information (-:)"
As YBB explains, there are a lot of available options to that plan, but it might be beyond the purview of a general news reporter to even understand that. There are good financial reporters around (Paul Solman of PBS comes to mind) and it would likely take someone of that caliber to construct a detailed report with the information that YBB has supplied.
So Gretchen Morgenson wound up at NBC. For many years she was a muckraking business reporter at the NYTimes. Mostly excellent, though IMHO she occasionally latched onto something so much that she went over the top. There's some of that here.
TIAA has been under pressure for a couple of decades to retain assets and improve profits. Like many employer plan providers, it began offering retirement plan advice once the Dept of Labor opened up the floodgates in 2006.
Of course TIAA's advisors steer participants into more expensive plans. An irony in the report is that it holds Vanguard out as a model of what should be done, when Vanguard just settled with the SEC for failing to "disclose to clients that its advisors had financial incentives to funnel them into certain managed accounts."
There are no white hats in this industry.
I largely agree with yogi that the article exhibits poor understanding of fixed annuity fees. But Morgenson knows better and does not lack for understanding. Her complaint here is over the top. One does not ask a bank what its expense ratios are on its CDs; the profits are built into the rates it offers. Likewise, one does not ask an insurance company what its expense ratios are on its fixed annuities.
Why not ask Vanguard what the "expense ratios" are of the underlying bonds in its MMF portfolios? Just how much does the Treasury make on its T-bills?
To nitpick, it looks like PTTRX (the only Pimco offering) and RERGX (the only American Funds offering) are only in RI's 457 plan, not the 401(a) plan that's the subject of the article. https://www.tiaa.org/public/tcm/ri/view-all-investments
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"My take - 2 links are at the end.
1. Plan fees are $32/yr plus fund ER (if applicable).
2. TIAA Traditional is RCP (flexible). There is no ER as it's run directly from TIAA General Account. RCP rates are published monthly (& here too) & seem good. The guessed ERs in the NBC article are speculations & show poor understanding.
3. Also available are TIAA Stable Value (with lower rates) & Vanguard money-market fund.
4. TDFs available are TIAA RetirePlus Select (ER 3 bps only) & Vanguard TDFs.
5. Other funds available are from American Funds, Pimco, State Street, Vanguard.
6. As for restrictions on in-service withdrawals & loans, neither is available, but that is the decision of Rhode Island. I am surprised that loans aren't allowed. But why blame TIAA? Complain to Rhode Island HR.
IMO, it's a GOOD plan & I hope that TIAA responds to the shoddy NBC piece. If not, you are at the right place to get right information (-:)"
NBC https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/rhode-island-sheriffs-retirement-account-woes-bring-scrutiny-state-run-rcna229290
TIAA Rhode Island DC Plan https://www.tiaa.org/public/tcm/ri/retirement-benefits/plan-405868
https://ybbpersonalfinance.proboards.com/thread/918/tiaa-rhode-island-plan
TIAA has been under pressure for a couple of decades to retain assets and improve profits. Like many employer plan providers, it began offering retirement plan advice once the Dept of Labor opened up the floodgates in 2006.
Of course TIAA's advisors steer participants into more expensive plans. An irony in the report is that it holds Vanguard out as a model of what should be done, when Vanguard just settled with the SEC for failing to "disclose to clients that its advisors had financial incentives to funnel them into certain managed accounts."
There are no white hats in this industry.
I largely agree with yogi that the article exhibits poor understanding of fixed annuity fees. But Morgenson knows better and does not lack for understanding. Her complaint here is over the top. One does not ask a bank what its expense ratios are on its CDs; the profits are built into the rates it offers. Likewise, one does not ask an insurance company what its expense ratios are on its fixed annuities.
Why not ask Vanguard what the "expense ratios" are of the underlying bonds in its MMF portfolios? Just how much does the Treasury make on its T-bills?
To nitpick, it looks like PTTRX (the only Pimco offering) and RERGX (the only American Funds offering) are only in RI's 457 plan, not the 401(a) plan that's the subject of the article.
https://www.tiaa.org/public/tcm/ri/view-all-investments