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Where To Invest Now?

edited June 26 in Other Investing
Morningstar's chief multi-asset strategist Dominic Pappalardo and chief investment officer Philip Straehl
discuss current market opportunities.
As always, these prognostications must be taken with a grain of salt.

"In equity markets, Pappalardo and Straehl see value in international stocks, small caps,
global consumer discretionary stocks, and healthcare names.
In the fixed-income markets, they recommend a large overweight position in US Treasuries
and a slight overweight position in emerging markets."


https://www.morningstar.com/markets/consumer-stocks-stand-out-among-opportunities-second-half-2025

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  • I am tempted to buy a INTL index fund in my 401K. Up almost 20% YTD. No way to know if this is just the beginning, or a potential trap. I do have plenty of cash on hand, and am in the process of unloading some preferred shares, so needing to put some cash back to work. I am also thinking about adding to MS bond funds.
  • edited June 26
    This recent episode of The Meb Faber Show is better than average. Faber’s guests are Rob Arnott, founder and Chairman of the board of Research Affiliates, and Campbell Harvey, Head of Research at Research Affiliates and Professor of Finance at the Fuqua School of Business at Duke University.

    The issue being discussed is: “To what extent are passive inflows into index funds affecting or distorting the markets? “ You won’t find an answer to where to invest now here. But very long term (over 10 years) the guests like small cap and value stocks. I enjoy the show for very late night listening. The casual relaxed approach won’t please everyone.

    (There’s a 90 second commercial for Y Charts at the open that feels like an hour.)

  • My two international equity funds have been my best performers, by far, in 2025.
    The YTD returns for my small blend and large blend funds are 16.44% and 15.04% respectively.
    I don't know if international equity funds will continue to outperform U.S. equity funds.
    It's important to note that the U.S. outperformed international for a very long time (until recently)
    and performance between these two asset classes tends to revert to the mean.
  • Would the U.S. funds have a larger means than Inter..?
  • @DrVenture MS bonds? Multi-static? Middle-Scuzz? Moon Shot? Milky Scum?
  • Mainly Scary? Mostly Subpar? Maybe Substandard?
  • edited June 26
    Despite Panamanian turmoil lately, BLX is climbing back. A very good couple of days, though I think it stinks, the way that workers down there are getting screwed via Presidential decree. By coincidence, I also landed upon another LatAm bank: FBP. And I'm still holding ET. I just won't EVER sell that puppy.

    But together, they are just 17.74% of my total. As Leonard Cohen wrote in "Suzanne," I prefer to look "amid the garbage and the flowers." I don't like a crowded trade. My mutual fund managers are doing that already with United Health and the MAAG7 and the other trendy and beautiful, newest s**t. So, when I go shopping for a single stock, other points on the compass are more attractive to me. A lower than average multiple is important. I discovered Stock Rover, and it's extremely useful, in my opinion--- even the FREE version. More useful these days than Morningstar, if you're trying to dig and examine beyond the surface.

    Where to invest now? My rules include a low P/E. And at least a 3% dividend, preferably with a payout ratio that doesn't serve to shoot yourself in the foot; it needs to be sustainable. I got out of BHB last year at a good spot, though I hung onto it for a bit too long. I hear tell that BHB is buying another smallish New England banking outfit. That will be a big expense, and so I'll stay away. CMTV out of Derby, Vermont at the Canadian border is still a fantasy for me. Right now, it's at the high end of its 52-week share price range. Even so, the div. yield is 4.8% and that's not shabby.

    International? OK. Just wanna make sure that taxes are not preemptively stolen from the dividend, as was the case with Norsk Hydro. I sold it.

  • edited June 26
    @Crash, MS bond refers to multi-sector bond funds.
  • edited June 26
    Yes, that is what I was referring to. I have no faith in my ability to pick a sector and/or adjust as circumstances unfold. Though "mainly subpar" may fit the bill too.
  • My two international equity funds have been my best performers, by far, in 2025.
    The YTD returns for my small blend and large blend funds are 16.44% and 15.04% respectively.
    I don't know if international equity funds will continue to outperform U.S. equity funds.
    It's important to note that the U.S. outperformed international for a very long time (until recently)
    and performance between these two asset classes tends to revert to the mean.

    This also covers my thinking. I have steadfastly avoided INTL funds for a decade or more, and profited from that. But, reversion to mean (by force/tariff/boycott) may be the ticket the days. I console myself by remembering how eschewing INTL this long has worked out, while kicking myself for not jumping on this trend months ago.



  • At Crash. Curious about your fondness for investments with healthy yields. If you don’t mind sharing,,,,, do you reinvest the divs?
  • larryB said:

    At Crash. Curious about your fondness for investments with healthy yields. If you don’t mind sharing,,,,, do you reinvest the divs?

    Hi! Oh, yes, I reinvest all the divs. Because I just don't need them for expenses yet. Our needs are simple, apart from the traveling. So, we just put aside X amount routinely, in order to be able to do that. Credit card points help, a little bit, too. Still in growth mode, maybe as long as I'm still breathing.
  • edited June 27
    Doesn’t the NAV drop just prior to the dividend being paid out and by equal amount? So it shouldn’t make any difference whether your long term gains come from price appreciation, dividend payouts or some combination. In a taxable account you’re likely better off paying long term cap gains tax on price appreciation rather than being taxed on income.

    Total return over time is what we care about - not what mechanism led to that return. True, stocks that pay high dividends tend to hold up better in bad markets and so may be more desirable inside a portfolio in for providing stability. However, like other equity sectors dividend payers are subject to market cycles. They are not exempt from periods of overvaluation.

    The foreign tax? That’s been discussed in the past. When you hold the foreign stock in your U.S. domiciled account you see the tax being taken from your account. You still pay the tax when that stock is held inside a fund. You simply tend not to notice it then. Really no difference.
  • At Hank. Thanks for your comment… that’s an oft repeated thread on bogleheads. I have concluded that if I am not taking the div, I am really going to be selling shares at some future time and thus total return is what matters. And now for me the yield is no longer top of mind in picking funds.
  • edited June 27
    @hank @larryB

    You're correct. But I suppose I'm (still) in a rare situation, owing no 1040 federal tax, nor cap gains or tax on divs--- year after year. Collecting the divs gives me some freedom as to where to redeploy the "free money." Total return is indeed the goal. With my mutual funds in the T-IRA, those divs get auto-reinvested. :)
    https://client.schwab.com/app/learn/#/story/3-retirement-income-mistakes-to-avoid

    Vid:
    https://client.schwab.com/app/learn/#/story/how-to-evaluate-dividend-stocks
  • I'm not feeling the need to do anything at the moment.

    Time will tell how I'll feel if/when we have a budget bill and a new debt ceiling. And by then there may be interesting new numbers on inflation. I doubt there will be anymore certainty on tariffs anytime soon.


  • edited June 27
    At WABC….+1. I gotta say that it’s hard to do nothing. The Zen of investing. Just sit there.
  • It IS hard to do nothing. Or, at least, be patient enough to find the correct moment to act. I plan to increase my equity allocation by 4% and think I will choose INTL equities to meet that goal. I also want to reallocate some cash (another 4%) to Pimco OEF/CEF.

    I want to move from 56% equity to 60% equity. And 16% FI to 20% FI. My cash equivalents will then be approximately 20% of my total portfolio.

    I guess it is time to start DCAing. I placed a buy order for an INTL index fund (large cap core) and another for PIMIX, both in my 401K. This should increase both allocations by 1%.

  • Nobody is talking about commodities other than Gold.

    Worth doing some research.

    these guys have very detailed and very thoughtful position papers, all free

    https://www.gorozen.com/

    Also run a mutual fund

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