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Troops sent to “war ravaged” Portland Oregon

hank
edited October 5 in Off-Topic
Donald Trump said on Saturday he is deploying troops to Portland, Oregon, “authorizing Full Force, if necessary”, ignoring pleas from local officials and the state’s congressional delegation, who suggested that the president was misinformed or lying about the nature and scale of a single, small protest outside one federal immigration enforcement office.

Trump made the announcement on social media, where he claimed that the deployment was necessary “to protect War ravaged Portland,” and Immigration and Customs Enforcement (Ice) facilities he said were “under siege by antifascists “and other domestic terrorists”.

The Guardian

”Never Mind …”

Federal Judge halts deployment of troops to Portland LINK

District Judge Karin wrote: “This country has a longstanding and foundational tradition of resistance to government overreach, especially in the form of military intrusion into civil affairs,” Immergut wrote. She later continued, “This historical tradition boils down to a simple proposition: this is a nation of Constitutional law, not martial law.”

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  • Old_JoeOld_Joe
    Hard to keep up these days...
  • hank
    edited October 5
    The rhetoric used to justify sending troops into Portland is disturbing. All major cities have longstanding crime problems. Different from the type of external threats the military is designed for. Policing the streets on which you and I walk is a local issue. Better federal funding of local programs to arrest / assist if possible / punish the criminally inclined would be welcome. Our cities are sadly in need of help with infrastructure as well. Instead it’s been gut, gut, gut funding and programs. Perhaps a desire to militarize cities is the reason Trump got rid of the term “Defense” and changed the defense department’s name to one of “war.” Apparently, no external threat deemed necessary by Trump to utilize his “war” department inside the 50 states.
  • Old_JoeOld_Joe
    @hank- check that last sentence.
  • hank
    Old_Joe said:

    @hank- check that last sentence.

    I revised it a bit.

  • Old_JoeOld_Joe
    Like I said- Hard to keep up these days... this just now from the San Francisco Chronicle:
    Donald Trump is sending all of the roughly 300 California National Guard troops that remain federalized in Los Angeles to Portland, Ore., after a judge blocked the president from taking control of Oregon National Guard troops, California Gov. Gavin Newsom announced Sunday.

    “This is a breathtaking abuse of the law and power,” Newsom wrote in a statement. “The commander-in-chief is using the U.S. military as a political weapon against American citizens.”
  • CrashCrash
    Achtung! You WILL LOVE Der Fuhrer, or you vill pay der price!
  • hank
    edited October 5
    Thanks OJ. Yeah. Just heard that on the news. Sickening. Without the support of the gutless wonders in congress (lower case c), there’s only so much the courts can do.
  • hank
    edited October 6
    Federal Judge blocks sending california nNational Guard to Oregon. Link

    The White House is yet to respond to Sunday's ruling but Stephen Miller, Trump's deputy chief of staff, called the ruling on X "one of the most egregious and thunderous violations of constitutional order we have ever seen - and is yet the latest example of unceasing efforts to nullify the 2024 election by fiat".
  • AnnaAnna
    edited October 6
    Could someone please explain to me where the Consitutional Order of things can be found within the Constitution or a document that supersedes the Constitution. If the later, is there a link to the superseding, Constitutionally enacted, document?
  • MarkMark
    ? "a document that supersedes the Constitution." ?

    I don't have a document that does that but it seems that we now have a SCOTUS that does.
  • hank
    edited October 6
    Anna said:

    where the Consitutional Order of things can be found?

    Dunno. Maybe burried somewhere in the Epstein Files?

    From October’s Commentary: ”… the level of stock ownership is now at a record high; almost 45% of Americans’ net wealth rests in their stock portfolios.”

    Maybe people are blinded to the usurpation of basic rights because their brains are in their portfolios? Long as the market keeps hitting new highs they may not give a damn. Reason this Administration has trashed Powell and his committee so hard. To hell with appropriate monetary policy.

  • Observant1
    "To hell with appropriate monetary policy."

    And to hell with upholding the Constitution, rule of law, and plain human decency! :-(
  • hank
    edited October 6
    Trump “open” to invoking the Insurrection Act / Portland’s ”A burning Hell hole”

    Story

    “You look at what’s happening with Portland over the years, it’s a burning hell hole. And then you have a judge that lost her way that tries to pretend that there’s no problem.”
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