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Reality sets in on Trumps new war


"The bad news comes in two parts.

First, any hopes that this war might be extremely brief are fading. The Trump administration may have imagined that decapitating the Iranian government would bring swift regime change, but the Islamic State isn’t a government of mere thugs — yes, they’re evil thugs, but they’re also serious religious fanatics facing what for them is an existential threat, and their grip on power isn’t that easy to break. Furthermore, it’s painfully obvious that Trump and co. had no plan beyond bombing Iran, killing its current leaders, and hoping that something good would happen.

Second, war in the middle of the world’s most important oil-producing region — which is also a key source of liquefied natural gas — inevitably has major consequences for energy prices. Once upon a time US and Israeli air superiority might have contained Iran’s ability to harm its neighbors. But in an age in which even third-rate powers have the ability to launch missiles and drones, Iran has a huge stockpile of drones and also has ballistic missiles that are destructive, hard to intercept, and have a 1200 mile range.

The U.S. embassy in Saudi Arabia has been hit by two drone strikes. Airports in Dubai, Abu Dhabi and Doha and the U.S. consulate in Dubai have also been hit.

U.S. officials have urged all Americans in the region to leave, but they did so after almost all flights had been canceled. Only now are they saying that they’re going to arrange flights on military aircraft and charter flights — an airlift that will have to be immense given that there are surely tens of thousands of Americans currently stranded. Did I mention that Trump and co. clearly went to war without a plan?"

Paul Krugman

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  • @Mark

    "it’s painfully obvious that Trump and co. had no plan beyond bombing Iran, killing its current leaders, and hoping that something good would happen."

    That pretty much nails it!

    I'd assume that we cannot walk away, as trump would prefer at this point, because Iran will then be free to continue launching missiles/drone/terror with no push back.
  • He's a clueless loser who can't stand to lose with an idiot sidekick pushing buttons on a board just to see what each one might do.

    They will only walk away if Benji says they can.
  • Juvenile delinquents playing with war toys.
  • edited March 6
    Grown up Orange spoiled child. What's mine is mine, and what's YOURS is mine, too. I want it MY way. That was his selected dance music at the 1st term Inaugural Balls. Sinatra: I did it MY WAY. Such a classy Orange doink.
  • Guess what? The biggest energy shock in 80 years was the result of this foolhardy war initiative.

    Clearly there was no actual objective or risk/reward analysis done. Now they are being forced to back down to the markets reaction, energy problem and running out of Patriot and THAD resources.

    Does Iran stop launching drones and threatening the Straits? Why not turn the screws and keep depleting protective missile reserves? Has the fat man opened Pandoras box?
  • I guess the other "fat man" (Vlad) has given some new instructions?

    Randy Newman:
    https://genius.com/Randy-newman-you-cant-fool-the-fat-man-lyrics
  • another week, another round of historic achievements for trump , gop, and evangelicals :

    - the drop of oil\barrel down to $90 was one of the greatest one day movements by any dotus ever.
    now if we can only get those affordable houses and cars he promised.

    - for the first time ever, the distraction from pedophile to war criminal for schoolkids murdered is considered...
    tada!
    a moral upgrade !

  • I was thinking that Israel must have considered/known what would happen to oil prices, when they goaded trump into the attack on Iran. Probably didn't bring that up though.

    We are talking about oil futures here, right? That could go back up just as quick, if the reality is that Iran keeps disrupting the oil supply.
  • An interesting new factor being introduced to this farce of a play- France President Macron says that they are sending a "large" navy detachment to the Gulf of Hormuz to escort shipping there. Why wouldn't Iran start shooting stuff at them too? Then what?

    • We reengage in retaliation?
    • We tell our major NATO ally that they're on their own?

    Stay tuned for the next thrilling chapter of... DOOFUS STARTS A MIDEAST WAR!

  • Here is an Atlantic article that enlighten this brilliant administration and its STRATEGIC INCOMPETENCE. It is behind a paywall. Apple News subscribers will have access to it. The author was a professor at Naval War College.
    Worse, Donald Trump is now pointing to these missions as if the excellence with which they have been conducted somehow constitutes a strategy in itself. He appears so enthralled by the execution of these missions that he has enlarged the goals of this war to include the complete destruction of the Iranian regime, after which he will “Make Iran Great Again.

    The Persian emperor Xerxes had it; that’s how he found himself eventually suffering a historic defeat in Greece at the Battle of Salamis. Napoleon had it; that’s how he ended up freezing in the Russian snow after years of brilliant victories over other European states. The French in 1870 had it; that’s how they confidently marched to catastrophes against a superior Prussian army. The Axis had it; that’s how Germany and Japan convinced themselves that their early successes meant that they could quickly defeat the Soviet Union and the United States, respectively.

    The Americans caught the same bug in the Korean War, when they chased the North Koreans to the Yalu River, a drive that ended in disaster when Communist Chinese troops streamed across the border and joined the conflict. The U.S. fell prey to this syndrome again in Vietnam, when it poured men and materiel into the war for years yet remained unable to turn many battlefield triumphs into a strategic victory.

    American policy in the Gulf War in 1991 is an honorable exception; George H. W. Bush avoided victory disease, calling an end to Operation Desert Storm rather than marching on Baghdad after achieving his stated aim of rescuing Kuwait. But his son, George W. Bush, chose to fight two wars at the same time. Once again, the men and women of the U.S. military managed to achieve remarkable operational successes, but it took years to stabilize Iraq, and Afghanistan today is back in the hands of the Taliban.

    And now Trump seems to have contracted a whopping case of victory disease. He is clearly convinced that previous operations in Venezuela, Nigeria, Somalia, Syria, and, of course, Iran are all evidence that a total victory over the regime in Tehran will be relatively quick. But he has provided no conception of what “victory” would look like. As of yesterday, his goals have expanded to include a demand for “unconditional surrender.
    https://theatlantic.com/ideas/2026/03/iran-strategy-victory-disease/686275/
  • Juvenile delinquents playing with war toys.
  • Regarding Cuba, maybe trump thinks that all Latinos are the same? That all of the brown voters that he has driven away will rush back to the fold, when he attacks Cuba?

    That would be on-brand.
  • @sven thanks for the article.
  • Old_Joe said:

    An interesting new factor being introduced to this farce of a play- France President Macron says that they are sending a "large" navy detachment to the Gulf of Hormuz to escort shipping there. Why wouldn't Iran start shooting stuff at them too? Then what?

    • We reengage in retaliation?
    • We tell our major NATO ally that they're on their own?

    Stay tuned for the next thrilling chapter of... DOOFUS STARTS A MIDEAST WAR!

    •What did he have to promise Macron to drag yet another country into his war scheme?

    "Stock futures fall as traders weigh Trump’s signal that Iran war may soon end" - Translation: It took the markets about 6 hours to realize trump's words are meaningless.
  • I think Trump will pull back enough to try to keep control of Congress after the 26 elections. If he keeps both houses, he will go all out doing whatever manifest destiny his faltering brain (or his last visitor's whisper) comes up with. He needs to keep the isolationist vote a little longer. He can disappoint them if and after he solidifies power. IMO.
  • HCR today:

    "It has become clear that Trump had no plan in Iran other than to strike it, knock out the leaders he didn’t like, and hope the Iranian people would rise up and put in place new leaders he could deal with. It was supposed to look like what happened in Venezuela in January, when U.S. forces launched a surprise military strike that enabled them to capture Venezuelan President Nicolás Maduro and his wife, Cilia Flores, leaving in his place the vice president, Delcy Rodríguez, who promises to work with Trump and has given him access to the country’s oil resources.

    Andrew Egger of The Bulwark explains that the Trump administration didn’t bother to have a theory for why the U.S. was going to war with Iran, or to explain to the American people why such a war would be a good thing, because they didn’t think there was going to be a war, just a fast, hard strike that would enable the U.S. to put a new Iranian leader in place.

    But the initial Israeli strikes killed most of the people the administration hoped would replace 86-year-old hardline ayatollah Ali Khamenei as supreme leader, and yesterday Iran proclaimed as his successor Khamenei’s 56-year-old son Mojtaba Khamenei despite Trump’s statement that “Khamenei’s son is unacceptable to me.” Mojtaba Khamenei is thought to be even more extreme a hardliner than his father.

    Wall Street Journal national security reporter Alex Ward reported today that according to current and former U.S. officials, “President Trump has told aides he would back the killing of new Iranian Supreme Leader Mojtaba Khamenei if he proves unwilling to cede to U.S. demands, such as ending Iran’s nuclear development.”

    This morning, Joe Wallace, Summer Said, Rebecca Feng, and Georgi Kantchev of the Wall Street Journal wrote an article titled “The Long-Feared Persian Gulf Oil Squeeze Is Upon Us,” warning that the stoppage of traffic through the Strait of Hormuz has set off “the most severe energy crisis since the 1970s and [is] threatening the global economy.” Ships move not only oil but also fertilizer used for crops around the globe through that strait.

    On March 3, Trump offered government insurance for shipping and floated the possibility of Navy escorts for ships in the strait, but that has not been enough to restore voyages. So this morning, on the Fox News Channel, Brian Kilmeade, who cheered on Trump’s attack on Iran from the television studio, told the captains of oil tankers they must simply conquer their fear and start up. “If you want to diminish the Iranian threat, if you want to make sure this ends up with complete Iran capitulation,” he said, “show some guts and go through that Strait, and do it.”

    The spreading war in the Middle East threatens the ties between the region and the U.S. that Trump has pushed since taking office. As Eliot Brown, Georgi Kantchev, and Lauren Thomas of the Wall Street Journal reported on Friday, the richest countries in the Persian Gulf last year tried to strengthen ties with Trump by pledging billions of dollars of investment into the U.S. Now they are having second thoughts. A prominent Dubai businessman posted at Trump on social media: “Who gave you the authority to drag our region into a war?” Trump had placed the Gulf states “at the heart of a danger they did not choose,” he wrote.

    On Saturday, Vivienne Walt of the New York Times warned that such investments have gone both ways, with U.S. tech giants like Nvidia, Microsoft, and Oracle investing in large-scale facilities across the Middle East with an eye to making the region a global center for AI. Now they are questioning the security of such investments."

    It astounds me that none of these geniuses saw this coming. There's your TDS right there. And only the leadership Spain has the guts to say "Hell no!"
  • Brian Kilmeade should jump a plane to the gulf and set an example of how to be a real man, by boarding the ships passing through the straits. I bet he owns a pair of "deck shoes", even.
  • edited 3:19AM
    DrVenture said:

    Brian Kilmeade should jump a plane to the gulf and set an example of how to be a real man,
    by boarding the ships passing through the straits.
    I bet he owns a pair of "deck shoes", even.

    It would be very noble for Mr. Kilmeade to emulate the change that he would like to see transpire!
    He actually owns two pairs of Sperry Topsiders—tan and dark brown.
    They are often used while cruising Long Island Sound with numerous Republican "dignitaries."
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