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Bogle's refers to Incorporated Investors as one of the original "Big Three" of the fund industry (along with the State Street and MFS funds). This is actually a reference to the Putnam fund of this thread. Incorporated Investors was its original name, as Putnam documented in a PR release here.The merger [of State Street into Met Life in 1982] hurt the fund shareholders. “Performance lagged, and the manager’s position in the industry declined from tops to average.” By 2002, Metropolitan Life abandoned the fund business [to Blackrock] ... Among Blackrock’s first moves was to put State Street Investment Corporation out of its misery, merging the industry’s third-oldest fund into another Blackrock fund. I still refer to this event as “a death in the family.”
Thanks msf for the tip on Bloomberg. See, something good has come out of this contentious thread (in no small part due to me) I learned something new. I have never used Bloomberg quotes. I will add it in my research. However because of my obsession to detail I will still want to check my long hand Yahoo historical prices just to verify. As to the above, unless I am mistaken (which I often am) all closed end bond funds and ETFs pay monthly. In fact daily dividend accrual is only a feature of the various open end bond funds (and of course money market funds)the kid who picked up the phone @ Vanguard made a mistake. Vanguard does best to train them, but you know how it goes, plus being a bogle-funded truly mutual fund company (i.e. cheap) they can't really get good help like the loaded institutions can - a fact of life... his answer applied to some funds, but not to the open end fund that you described. The related ETF however could have a different dividend accrual rule.
And (frankly, to my surprise) it does. From the ETF share classprospectus:
"For holders of the Fund’s ETF Shares, income dividends are declared and distributed monthly. "
And (frankly, to my surprise) it does. From the ETF share class prospectus:the kid who picked up the phone @ Vanguard made a mistake. Vanguard does best to train them, but you know how it goes, plus being a bogle-funded truly mutual fund company (i.e. cheap) they can't really get good help like the loaded institutions can - a fact of life... his answer applied to some funds, but not to the open end fund that you described. The related ETF however could have a different dividend accrual rule.
Yes, Bogle is winning a lot of people over to his viewpoint. And in a year like 2014, active funds are generally doing very poorly in relation to index funds. Something like 30% of all fund assets are now indexed [?or is that 30% of all stock market assets, don't recall], compared to hardly anything in the 1990's. When you can get a fund like VTI at 5 basis points expense ratio, it's hard to beat. The Admiral shares of the same fund also have a 5 basis points expense ratio. Buffett is a big fan of the Vanguard S&P 500 index fund.That is the argument of indexers. It is indeed hard to find active fund managers who can beat the index over long term.
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