We did bought more VHT along with Qqq and bngo (another biotechnology data firm) recently....
Regarding vaccines https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/vaccines/expect/after.htmlhttps://www.nejm.org/doi/full/10.1056/NEJMoa2034577
Imho vaccine is generally safe
Very small 0.3 - 0.6% side effects treatable vascular side effects like strokes or cardiac issues heart attacks
Expect 10-20s% have joints pain headaches fevers flu symptoms tireness especially after 2nd dose [3rd - 4th wks after first dose]
Think Brazile data has few deaths?? (Unclear if related to vaccine) After large numbers tested in late Summer fall initial studies.
Pls stay safe
Stay safe, Derf
>> Imho vaccine is generally safe
you know, you can remove that first qualifier, as it's not actually to do with your opinion
https://www.latimes.com/science/story/2020-12-12/why-fda-didnt-approve-pfizer-covid-19-vaccine-eua Some (most?) people equate that with "generally safe"; I read it as "safe enough".
In anticipation of "look at the evidence" response, here's more from the LA Times: One can certainly disagree with the FDA and assert that the vaccines are "generally safe", i.e. safe for general (not just emergency) use. Everyone is entitled to an opinion.
Stay safe, Derf
Israel is the first country to vaccinate their citizen early. The date on the decline of infection and hospitialization are highly encouraging. https://nature.com/articles/d41586-021-00316-4
Concern today is the mutation of coronavirus to other contagious variants (i.e. UK and South Africa). There is no firm data of whether these variants are more lethal. This also implies that the pace of vaccination needs to speed out to minimize the spread of the more contagious variants. Good news is that early data that mRNA-based vaccines work effectively (90%+) against these variants in the laboratory. The older technologies that is used in Astro-Zeneca and Johnson & Johnson have showed to be less effective (50%). Neveretheless these vaccines require only one shot dosage whereas Pfizer and Moderna require two shots. Mixing two different type of vaccines are being considered.
Now Pfizer and Moderna are testing the vaccines for those under 16 so that they will be able to go back to schools with confidence. If the testing is successful, there is a chance of these students will return to school in fall 2021.
According to the FDA in its EUA letter: https://www.fda.gov/media/144636/download
The FDA goes on to require the following fact sheet to be provided to vaccine recipients: https://www.modernatx.com/covid19vaccine-eua/eua-fact-sheet-recipients.pdf
Stay Safe, Derf
A total of 371 out of 715,425 Israelis who passed at least a week after receiving two doses of the Pfizer coronavirus vaccine have contracted the virus – 0.04%, with 16 being sent to the hospital – according to a Health Ministry report released on Thursday.
Stay Safe, Derf
I wonder how far off official FDA approval is
Dr FU stated previously c19 vaccines maybe annual events from now onward
With so many adverse effects not sure many will take c19 vacc in 2022. Many Healthcare workers report feeling very sick fevers tireness and flu symptoms after 2nd dose...takes 4 6 wks to develop immunity against c19 which may explains reinfection even after 2nd dose vaccines
In Austin Tx they are staring to vaccinate 60 years or older now or if you have other underling med conditions
Also @Derf's data on Israel vaccination program is highly encouraging. I am looking forward when US to get to that point hopefully later this year.
>> With so many adverse effects not sure many will take c19 vacc in 2022. Many Healthcare workers report feeling very sick fevers tireness and flu symptoms after 2nd dose
You forgot to preface w imho .
Do I recall correctly that you are in healthcare? Do you give off this vibe on the job? Apologies if my memory is bad.
Have you had any deaths in your close circle of fam / friends?
@Sven, +1, and yes, the tide is turning, slowly.
My wife, age 77, went into afib a couple of weeks after her first Moderna vaccine shot -- rapid and erratic heart rate. We went to ER and an Electrocardioversion put her back in sinus rhythm.
Ten days after her second shot -- back into afib.
There's no way to be sure that the afib is a result of the shot, but two anecdotes constitute data. Her cardiologist concurs that there have been cases.
She has a history of afib, resulting from a valve problem and surgery.
In a way, we hope the vaccine is the trigger. It's better to have a known cause than to fear random problems.
As for me, I just had one Tylenol day after my second shot.
My state (Georgia) got off to a slow start but things have improved a lot. Many local pharmacies and Health Departments are have significant involvement.
I wish I had bought Moderna stock a year ago, when it was $19/share. Now it's $183. I do own a little in FHLC (Fidelity Health Care Index ETF) and some in FBIOX (Fidelity Select BioTech).
OK, so let's just take this apart a little...
"With so many adverse effects".. .
• Exactly how many, as a percentage of shots given?
• Can you cite a reliable source for this?
"Many Healthcare workers report feeling very sick fevers tireness and flu symptoms after 2nd dose."
• Again, exactly how many, as a percentage of shots given?
• Again, can you cite a reliable source for this claim?
"takes 4 6 wks to develop immunity against c19 which may explains reinfection even after 2nd dose vaccines"
• Exactly what is that supposed to mean? What "reinfection"? Are you stating that people who have already had the virus have become reinfected?
John, over the years you have compiled quite a record of unreliable, unsubstantiated, or obviously incorrect statements here on MFO, which you present, often completely out of any reasonable context, as "facts".
While that unenviable record has usually dealt with financial or political matters, I suggest that the issues concerning Covid 19 are far too serious for such careless and unhelpful comments.
David Stone, interesting about prior afib possibly being contraindication for vax (I know this is not what you are saying), although covid has cardiac consequences too, not only carditis but all sorts of endothelial involvement and impaired endothelium function, thromboses, etc. v sorry to hear of your spouse and her two instances.
We all shoulda bought Moderna and the others, yes.
According to the CDC, data from clinical trials show that 41.9% of those (aged 18-55) receiving vaccines and keeping logs (2,291 subjects for first dose) experienced some level of headaches after their first Pfizer dose and 51.7% after their second dose.
Of course one needs to compare these percentages with those of the 2298 subjects receiving placebos.
Other reactions experienced (first/second doses):
Fatigue: 47.4% / 59.4%
Chills: 24.0% / 35.1%
Fever: 3.7% / 15.8%
Diarrhea: 11.1% / 10.4%
New or worsening muscle pain: 21.3% / 37.3%
New or worsening joint pain: 11.0% / 21.9%
Pfizer reactions; https://www.cdc.gov/vaccines/covid-19/info-by-product/pfizer/reactogenicity.html?CDC_AA_refVal=https://www.cdc.gov/vaccines/covid-19/info-by-manufacturer/pfizer/reactogenicity.html
Moderna reactions: https://www.cdc.gov/vaccines/covid-19/info-by-product/moderna/reactogenicity.html
The danger of Covid outweighs the side effects of the vaccine.
My wife and I had sore arms after our first Pfizer shot February 9 and we are scheduled for the second one on March 2. We feel fortunate and are prepared for a day of chills and fever post-shot.
Agree with you about fortunate, regarding the vaccine. Only sore arm here, too.
I don't expect chills or fever or whatever after 2nd on March 3. We have our "what if" list printed and on display upon a cupboard door.
As to side effects, well; guess it is up to each as to whether they would choose to have the side effects of COVID. We've opted to avoid that experience if possible. Know of a few folks who "kinda" wonder about getting a vaccination. I opined that perhaps you may be right for yourself and can make a more proper decision after having a tube jammed into your primary airway.
There was a reported incident down in San Diego where several people had reactions immediately after inoculation. The vaccine administration was temporarily halted, but later resumed. Haven't seen any followup info on that, but might have missed it.
Not aware of any similar reports.