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Here comes winter

edited November 25 in Off-Topic
Warnings ancross all Michigan. Dang it. My near 15 year old blower died after last winter. Hell of a time getting anyone to work on them anymore. The local shop I bought it from no longer sells or services them. Finally found a fella to work on it. Dropped it off in early September when it was still in the 80s. He replaced a ripped up belt. Finished 3 or 4 days ago and I’ve got it home just in time it appears.

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  • edited November 25
    Guessing that you have a longer/bigger driveway?

    That's great that you found a good repairman. My Ariens is 11 years old. It has the Subaru/Robbins engine and I just gassed it up and checked the oil yesterday. Starts on the first pull every time. Actually surprises me. Only problem that I ever had was something stuck in the carb. I took it off, sprayed heck out of it and viola, been great ever since.

    I went smaller for storage purposes (22") and damn if that thing doesn't punch well above its weight. Glad you mentioned belts. I never even considered it as a consumable, and will look into ordering one up for drive and blower, just in case.

  • edited November 25
    Yes - A very long driveway + some out buildings. Typically 45-90 minutes continuous work depending on depth, etc. Ariens is a good name. Mine’s a walk behind 28” Honda on tracks. Went through 3 or 4 lesser machines prior to buying this. This one’s lasted much longer than any of them.

    Amazingly this was the first time it failed, although there are some sheer pins I’ve broken and replaced on my own. In that case, half the battle is getting the garage heated up with portable propane heaters and the machine defrosted before replacing the broken sheer pin. Everything you do is twice as hard in the winter.
  • Yeah, yours gets a good workout! I do like Honda power equipment.

    LOL - Yeah, I also use the propane portable for the garage in winter. I hear ya.
  • Cub cadet here. Hand warmers no longer work & wish I had looked into seeing why! To late know.
    Just a few flakes observed this morning, Derf
  • edited November 26
    Derf said:

    Cub cadet here. Hand warmers no longer work & wish I had looked into seeing why! To late know.
    Just a few flakes observed this morning, Derf

    I looked at Cub Cadet and a few others at Home Depot other day. Considering buying a backup for the aging Honda. A fella there mentioned that electric start is a great feature to have. No battery - just hook up to an electrical cord. I’ve never had one that didn’t start on the first or second pull. The only engines i wont’t buy any longer are B&S. Some of the recent ones are junk. A pleasant surprise is the Kohler on my log splitter. Runs like a dream. Steady Eddie. And one cool sounding engine. A bit like the sound of popcorn popping.
  • Electric start a + for sure!
    Seems we're going to get dumped on this weekend!!

    Stay warm, Derf
  • edited November 29
    We have about 6" as of now. I changed the oil in the Ariens on Wednesday. It does have electric start, but just not needed. Will be heading out soon for round one.

    Edit: Whew what a slog! The snowblower was pushing the snow, instead of expelling it. Had to use the shovel frequently, and the snow was sticking to the shovel badly. Took about 3 hours. I should have hit it once this morning, rather than waiting until it was mostly over.
  • edited November 29
    Derf said:

    Cub cadet here. Hand warmers no longer work & wish I had looked into seeing why! To late know.
    Just a few flakes observed this morning, Derf

    Found this on internet, maybe it helps? Looks like there may be a fuse.

    •Check electrical connections: Look for any loose, damaged, or corroded wiring, especially near the throttle and ignition. Clean all connectors and ensure they are tight.

    •Inspect the switch: Make sure the handlebar switch is working properly.

    Examine the fuse and relay: Verify that the fuse and relay for the heated grip circuit are intact and not blown. The fuse is typically an inline fuse holder located in the wiring harness near the battery or under the dash panel.

    •Test voltage with a multimeter: With the engine running, use a multimeter to check for voltage at the hand warmers. There should be a path for power and a ground connection.

    •Check for continuity: Use a multimeter to test the continuity of the hand warmers themselves. An open circuit (infinite resistance) means the heating element is bad.

    •Troubleshoot weak heat: If the hand warmers are only slightly warm, they often work best at full throttle and may not get "hot" like other types of grips.
  • edited November 29
    DrVenture said:

    We have about 6" as of now. I changed the oil in the Ariens on Wednesday. It does have electric start, but just not needed. Will be heading out soon for round one.

    Edit: Whew what a slog! The snowblower was pushing the snow, instead of expelling it. Had to use the shovel frequently, and the snow was sticking to the shovel badly. Took about 3 hours. I should have hit it once this morning, rather than waiting until it was mostly over.

    Yeah - That's a problem with early snow. Wants to slide along, stick to blower & plug things up. I'm holding off on blowing. Shoveled about 4-6" off a deck today. Damn stuff came down wet and then froze solid. Hard to shovel.

    If the fella out in the woods really fixed my Honda I'll be happy. Not too confident. It had lost all the hydro fluid. Should know after a good hour's work what shape it's really in. Sorry I checked the weather. Looks like 4-7 inches tonight and 35 mph wind.

  • Hi @DrVenture
    --- snow blower impellers and chute area
    --- standard hand snow shovel blade face

    If you can have these in a warm area (garage) for application

    --- WD-40 can be used to repel snow sticking to shovels and snowblower chutes by creating a slippery, non-stick surface. It's best to use the Water Resistant Silicone Lubricant or Big Blast formulas for this purpose. Before applying, clean the surface to remove dirt, rust, and oil.
    There is also an Armor All product spray (ceramic) that helps with this and may be used on vehicle surfaces during the warm months.

    Wet snow and the blower is no fun !!!
  • Thanks, catch! I will do that tomorrow. I didn't think to do it before I started, so that train had left the station. I have also used spray canola oil (Pam) once or twice. The stuff that you spray into pans and baking dishes.
  • DrVenture, I use Pam in glass bread pans for banana bread or corn muffin mix.:)
  • What is this "snow" stuff that you guys are talking about?
    :)
  • catch22 said:

    DrVenture, I use Pam in glass bread pans for banana bread or corn muffin mix.:)

    I sprayed everything down with silicone today, so we'll see how that holds up for the follow up removal this morning. Appreciate the reminder.

  • Wow. What a workout. Blower ran good. About 8-10 inches but thick as wet cement. A foot deep in places. I need to shovel around steps and the like as the Honda doesn't have good protection in front. One of my few complaints about it. Count yourself lucky @Old_Joe.
  • Hi @Old_Joe Your humor continues to help the smile upon my old face. Thank you.
    For some of us 'true winter' folks who have had the annual experience for years; there are more stories than one has time to write/tell. Especially during periods of heavy snowfall.
    I'll offer one story that is a rather uncommon winter event; although there must have been or are similar events in other locations, over the years.
    The time period is mid-1970's - mid-1980's for my knowledge base. Michigan has always had a lot of active motorcycle clubs. And, yes; I'm sure some were a bit rough.
    To the best of my recall, several clubs would hold racing events to raise money for charities in the area. This would include circle track racing in the winter. The one I describe next may not have been for charity, but for fun of a club.
    The Saginaw Bay is 26 miles wide by 52 miles long. The depth runs from 15 - 28 feet. The bay is busy with ice fishing after the ice is thick; as some folks drive their vehicles to their spot (more snowmobiles/quad runners now). A friend and I went to a mid-winter motorcycle race on the ice.
    I had a 1968 Chevy Bel-Air at the time. The ice racing was very interesting; but a side activity was a large section of ice away from the race and other cars. A large area of ice had been verified by others (we watched a few) of being free of cracks or 'heaves' in the ice surface. So, away we go.....get up to speed of 50 mph or so; then crank the steering wheel hard one direction and then the other way. Slam on the brakes to discover how long a skid would last on the ice. There was about 1/4 mile free space for all of the this silliness. Well, anyway; a different thing to do in the winter.
    Some still learn about driving/stopping on snow in large parking lots here. Family members learned about this at a nearby large, smooth parking lot covered with several inches of snow. An excellent teaching moment for braking, turning and stopping without having to be on the roads.
    Lastly, the motorcycle ice racing is very interesting to watch.

    Saginaw Bay map

    Studded motorcycle tires
  • Heck, if memory servers me right, studded snow tires for autos were allowed at one time.
  • edited November 30
    I learned the little that I know about such things driving up to Yosemite. For many years we took weekends there in the early spring and the late fall, and a number of times there was a pretty decent amount of snow on the highways up there.

    Where the highway was wide enough and no other vehicles nearby I experimented, at low speed, with entering and recovery from skids. Good to get the feel of the thing. I did the same sort of thing when taking flying lessons- getting into problems like stalling, losing visual references and flying on basic instruments ("needle, ball, and airspeed").

    Knowledge is helpful, but caution is indeed indicated.
  • This is just for all the old guys out there:
    You have spent your lives amassing a good retirement income. I love you guys. Could you please spend some of that money to hire a service to clear your dangerous snow problems? Consider it an investment in a long, healthy life and peace of mind for Anna.
  • Oh I could do that Anna but that would take away all the fun my neighbors have chit-chatting about the old fool out there shoveling. I have always been quite physically active and shoveling is all of that. Cheaper than a gym membership and it makes me feel still alive in some respects. Heck even shoving around the snowblower when I choose to use it is a heckuva workout. I needed it for this most recent 5-6" dump but usually anything under 4" gets shoveled.
  • Circumstances thankfully prevent me from emulating Mark, but I do mow our rather large back yard. It isn't really an official "lawn"- just what grows there naturally and is usually pretty green. I see an occasional grass snake, so maybe it's grass?
  • edited December 1
    LOL @Anna -

    - The exercise is healthy and also proof that I am still alive!

    - I don't trust anyone to do it right. Plows mounted on trucks can do a lot of damage to
    drives and nearby landscaping. Snowblowers take longer but much better on your drive & yard.

    - There's often a wait of a day or longer for the plow drivers to get to your place.
  • Mark said:

    Oh I could do that Anna but that would take away all the fun my neighbors have chit-chatting about the old fool out there shoveling. I have always been quite physically active and shoveling is all of that. Cheaper than a gym membership and it makes me feel still alive in some respects. Heck even shoving around the snowblower when I choose to use it is a heckuva workout. I needed it for this most recent 5-6" dump but usually anything under 4" gets shoveled.

    Perfectly put, I agree.

  • hank said:

    LOL @Anna -

    - The exercise is healthy and also proof that I am still alive!

    - I don't trust anyone to do it right. Plows mounted on trucks can do a lot of damage to
    drives and nearby landscaping. Snowblowers take longer but much better on your drive & yard.

    - There's often a wait of a day or longer for the plow drivers to get to your place.

    This is also very true.

  • Anna said:

    This is just for all the old guys out there:
    You have spent your lives amassing a good retirement income. I love you guys. Could you please spend some of that money to hire a service to clear your dangerous snow problems? Consider it an investment in a long, healthy life and peace of mind for Anna.

    Thanks Anna, for the concern and sentiment.

  • Old_Joe said:

    I learned the little that I know about such things driving up to Yosemite. For many years we took weekends there in the early spring and the late fall, and a number of times there was a pretty decent amount of snow on the highways up there.

    Where the highway was wide enough and no other vehicles nearby I experimented, at low speed, with entering and recovery from skids. Good to get the feel of the thing. I did the same sort of thing when taking flying lessons- getting into problems like stalling, losing visual references and flying on basic instruments ("needle, ball, and airspeed").

    Knowledge is helpful, but caution is indeed indicated.

    Having spent 5 decades driving some very sketchy cars, with bad tires, has been very educational. It makes one comfortable when driving "sideways down the highways". Stopping may be the most important part, but stability control and ABS now makes that reasonably safe.
  • Well, maybe not "comfortable", but at least not panicking (too much).
  • LOL - I once drove 50 miles on glaze ice. In a car with basic all-season tires, no ABS or traction control whatsoever. I saw (estimated) over 100 wrecks. Some that I, and a state trooper, weaved and picked our path through. He didn't even bother stopping, no point. It was 11pm and the rain had just froze as temperatures dropped below freezing. That was spooky!
  • edited December 1
    Used to be a hoot to spin a rear drive car round and round on ice in an empty parking lot if you could find one. Taught you a lot about the dynamics & how to regain control. Pretty harmless. Front wheel drive behave much differently. They grip the road better .- until they don't. A bitch to recover from a high speed spin. Believe me. Running snow tires on the front end alone is a "No-No" with FWD vehicles. What happens is you start to slide and then instinctively back off on the accelerator. Engine drag + the increased tire grip slow the front end down more than the rear creating a front-braking effect. Really a mess to pull out of.

    The Camry is my first AWD. Mostly positive impressions, but I didn't think it steered particularly well in 10 inches of heavy slush out on my unplowed road the other day. Traction + steering appear to be two different matters. I believe the Rivian has front & rear steering. Wonder if that behaves better in heavy slush? Would guess so.
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